85. Chris Ward (Part 1)
"The whole experience of working on [Pattern Is Movement's 2014 record] was super fulfilling. It's a bummer you didn't hear about it, and I feel like a fair amount of people didn't just because we took so long. [...] That's one of the deficits of going away." -Chris Ward
Dan talks with former Pattern Is Movement drummer/current talent buyer at Johnny Brenda’s Chris Ward, and it is epic. In Part 1, Chris takes us through his days touring in PIM, his relationship with bandmate Andrew Thiboldeaux, backing up St Vincent early in her career, and how he evolved his understanding of arrangement, songwriting, and production to help the group achieve their adventurous and experimental spirit.