170. Savan DePaul

Savan DePaul has been making beats and rapping since high school, but they've really come into their own over the last few years with a slew of out-there, challenging hip-hop and electronic records. Dan talks with Savan about growing up in Royersford, PA, moving to West Philly, the influence of artists like Bjork and Sun Ra, the black autism community, being non-binary, and using their newest project, Ishtar Sr., to continue to challenge themselves and make new kinds of music.